I am by no means a fan of Trump, but we should all be grateful for what his ascendance has taught us about the supposed principles and ethics of our sanctimonious liberal elite class who imagine themselves as the embodiment of "moral clarity":
Remember for decades they were champions of free thought, speech and expression until they learned that these things could threaten their power and their places at the top of the social pyramid, at which point they began fellating the Deep State to keep us safe from "disinformation" etc;
Remember for decades the millions of preachy movies and plays about the Red Scare and the evil Puritans who would dare hound someone from society for their political opinions ("UnAmerican!"), until of course they had the chance to do the same to their political opponents, who now must take "Diversity" oaths and mouth other progressive shibboleths as the price of employment;
Remember for decades the millions of movies and plays and speeches about MLK and his vision of a colorblind America, which went from Promised Land to Jim Crow 2.0 and had to be jettisoned because it doesn't allow our betters to weaponize race to punish their opponents and reward their sacred cows (whose votes they can't win without);
and then of course remember all the hysterical warnings they made about Trump even before he won (and even after he already served four years): he will weaponize the government to punish his enemies, he will ignore the rule of law and abuse his power, he will use the power of the state to silence dissent and shower cash and benefits on his cronies—all of which have come true, except that it's the Dems and their backers who've fulfilled their own prophecies.
And I think we can all sense how this movie will end: the Dems and the MSM, their puppetmasters in the ownership class, and their Social Justice foot soldiers will destroy the village called Democracy in order to save it.
The Left has always been and will always be a collection of miserable misfits manipulated by a Mephistophelean "vanguard class" who will weaponize anything and everything to tear down society (it's no coincidence that their reigning ideology is founded on the "ruthless criticism of all that exists"). They are loathsome liars but if you/we can keep our heads and simply let them speak publicly for say 10 minutes, 9 out of 10 people will easily see they're demented freaks who should be quarantined by any sane society.
But what we're living through is almost entirely the fault of the American liberal class (and this includes Republicans and conservatives), who ceded our entire culture and educational establishment (from K to PhD) to something called "Social Justice" because they couldn't be roused from tracking their 401ks and because defending America and liberal principles may have gotten their hands dirty and subjected them to some bigotry accusations.
The Trojan Horse was wheeled inside our gates many decades ago, but conservatives scoffed at anything that couldn't be monetized and liberals cowered at the idea of saying NO to someone from an "oppressed" class.
It’s true that we were probably too focused on material well-being to deal with this properly and firmly at the outset. But I think nobody really believed that anyone could take this insanity seriously.
We just laughed at the ideas we heard floated on college campuses. Silly snowflakes, haha. Hey, in college we were all crazy and naive, right? They’ll grow out of it, we all did. Only somehow these kids didn’t grow out of it, they went out and managed to take control of every institution.
We honestly didn’t realize how dangerous it was. We’ve awakened to the danger now, just hope it’s not too late.
Having gone to school in the 80's it was regarded as "cross to bear" in terms of the silly liberal pieties we needed to recite at times. We did not take it seriously because they were not serious people and we shook it off when we got to the real world. We really did not pay attention to them again until we started sending our own kids to school. a big error in turns out to be.
Exactly so, Trump's truly invaluable service has been to catalyze a chain reaction of vicious hysteria from the unbearably smug, sanctimonious leftist elite, exposing the whole stinking thing for what it is and for what they truly are...and Brad, "porcine ogre" ain't half bad!
We learned that in 2020, but most refuse to admit it. Think of Philadelphia, where the watchers were sent home and the vote total magically (?) flipped. Look at Georgia ( not the nonsense spouted by Trump and his allies) where True the Vote proved a sophisticated, illegal ballot harvesting scheme and another organization (sorry, can't remember its name) demonstrated that tens of thousands of ballots were cast by ineligible voters (they had moved).
The presidential election of 2020 was corrupted by the use/misuse of Covid to abuse the election laws in several states.
Some of those abuses have supposedly been remedied by court orders and legislation, but there is no way to know how badly the election system is rigged until the November elections.
The good news is that EVERYONE is going to be watching and it should be harder for the various Democrat machines to cheat, and easier for them to get caught.
My question is, what happens when they get caught?
PS
What part of Trump’s Georgia election claims do you consider nonsense? I haven’t read his court filings, but if you are referring to the video of the election workers “counting” votes for hours after everyone was supposed to have gone home for the night, it looked pretty damning to me….
Mainly the early claims (which sounded crazy to me) about the voting machines. Sidney Powell (who I'd always admired) made various assertions she was unable to substantiate.
You are right - it was abuse of election laws, i.e., drop boxes unmonitored, ballot harvesting when prohibited by law, and absentee ballot verification requirements ignored (this was in Pennsylvania, where I reside). And the Courts went along, refusing to intervene, falling back on plaintiffs lack of standing.
I am NOT convinced that most of the abuses have been corrected. In purple Pennsylvania, now (not in 2020), individuals getting a drivers license are automatically registered to vote unless they proactively opt out of registration. How many ballots could be harvested from these "new" voters? I sincerely believe our election rules and machinery have been corrupted and we can no longer (if we ever could) rely on our election infrastructure to provide a fair and free election.
I’m not convinced either, but unfortunately we won’t know until after the election.
I think that the courts were instructed to stay out of the election fraud debate, the summer riots scared the hell out of many judges….. and if the reports are accurate then Chief Justice Roberts was one of them. Roberts was supposedly heard berating the other justices, telling them that if they took the election fraud cases then the cities would burn (I don’t recall the exact phrasing, but that was the gist of it).
He showed real courage once again…../sarc
I think that the Dems will try it again, and get caught.
In Roman times, these people would have been cheering the lions from their front row seats at the Colosseum. In the Middle Ages, they would have packed their picnic lunches and hurried to watch the public execution that was the weekend entertainment. They would be the people filling stadiums to see the sinner stoned to death.
I read stories like this in my history books, and wondered how people could behave that way. I thought civilization had taken us beyond such barbarity, but seeing the MSM cheerleading for Letitia James, I realize that I was wrong.
We can’t excuse those who are wildly applauding this by blaming MSM for misleading them. The media is gleefully reporting every gruesome detail, and their adoring crowd is ecstatic and begging for more. In earlier times, Biden would be asking, “Are you not entertained?”
This will not likely be enough to satisfy their lust to destroy. What will they demand next?
This is one reason for persistent inflation. It also affects our ability to borrow in international markets, and reduces the power of our threats and sanctions. James has thrown a major monkey wrench into the works. One reason we attract foreign investment is strong property protection laws. As of today, I would neither open a business in New York nor recommend that anyone else do so. The precedent set is that if the legal structure in New York considers you unworthy, you're going to be crushed, impoverished and dispossessed. If your views don't match those of the current authoritarians, the law won't protect you. Ditto if key officials in the authoritarian state just plain don't like you.
This should send businesses running from New York (those remaining after deBlasio denied them police protection and raised the murder rate to nightmare levels.) Biden has burdened New York City with billions of dollars in costs to support illegal immigrants, and the breakdown of law and order with "shopping without money," failure to prosecute most serious crimes and and the revocation of cash bail has promoted a lawlessness not seen since before "broken windows" was established. New York today is Detroit from the 1960s. For those who don't remember, Detroit lost half its population and two-thirds of its tax base over a decade.
New York's only way to save itself is to stop persecuting Trump and start voting for him.
Who would get the money from the judgement? Since there are no victims, does it go to the banks who gave him the loans?
This also has huge implications for business in New York. It's precisely similar to how the law works in corrupt countries, you have laws on the books that are unusual, difficult to follow and are violated regularly. Then a corrupt official can personally collect a fine anytime the law is "violated". The same goes for selective prosecution. Anyone who falls afoul of the political establishment can become a target. Who would want to do business in an environment like that? Isn't this the same state where you can dismember a body in a house you illegally occupy and be out without bail?
Additional, how can Trump post collateral for the appeal bond if he can't use his illiquid assets at a fair (or inflated) price?
There are so many ways this could backfire. I'd start with looking into the business dealings of the involved prosecutors and judge. It might even be something as innocuous as borrowing money from a friend for family for a down payment that can get you into hot water.
I honestly don’t believe that the Trump “prosecutions” have gotten this far.
I thought that someone with authority(like the Supreme Court) would have stepped in and said ‘we don’t do things like that in this country’ and dismissed the charges…. All of them, because it’s clear to anyone paying attention that they are politically motivated and being tried and decided by Trump’s political enemies.
I’ve seen the prosecutors in these cases do things that would have gotten them disbarred 20 years ago, and nothing happens to them.
What is there to say about this grotesque state we have got ourselves into in the Western world - and especially in the Anglosphere... with lousy third-rate posers and chancers heading up so many of our once enviable political and cultural institutions..."I see a bad moon rising; I see trouble on the way; I see earthquakes and lightning; and...?."
Were the politics reversed, some Left wing nut blogger/anonymous someone would have already posted the address, phone number & email of this judge publicly. It is the government stealing the assets of a private citizen who did not break any law. Makes me sick, cough, cough, kafka.
remember the warning of Niemoller "first they came for......" fell on deaf ears. No one who is not the direct target of this believes that they will ever be in the cross hairs. Many of of us read Taibbi and while I really enjoy his stack, it is a wonder to behold his disbelief as he wanders in the desert he helped create.
This is my fear. While many now see the disasters the left has brought about, they comfort themselves by claiming “my party left me!” They don’t understand that the party didn’t leave them. The party just carried out their abysmal ideas to their logical conclusion.
Only long enough to respond to these kinds of posts. How did a guy who takes zero responsibility become the figurehead for the party of personal responsibility? Easy, just follow the rubles
Trump is a fraud and a con man, a common criminal. The Russians want him back in, so don’t fall for the bullshit. And think before you parrot Russian propaganda. Thanks and have a nice day.
I am by no means a fan of Trump, but we should all be grateful for what his ascendance has taught us about the supposed principles and ethics of our sanctimonious liberal elite class who imagine themselves as the embodiment of "moral clarity":
Remember for decades they were champions of free thought, speech and expression until they learned that these things could threaten their power and their places at the top of the social pyramid, at which point they began fellating the Deep State to keep us safe from "disinformation" etc;
Remember for decades the millions of preachy movies and plays about the Red Scare and the evil Puritans who would dare hound someone from society for their political opinions ("UnAmerican!"), until of course they had the chance to do the same to their political opponents, who now must take "Diversity" oaths and mouth other progressive shibboleths as the price of employment;
Remember for decades the millions of movies and plays and speeches about MLK and his vision of a colorblind America, which went from Promised Land to Jim Crow 2.0 and had to be jettisoned because it doesn't allow our betters to weaponize race to punish their opponents and reward their sacred cows (whose votes they can't win without);
and then of course remember all the hysterical warnings they made about Trump even before he won (and even after he already served four years): he will weaponize the government to punish his enemies, he will ignore the rule of law and abuse his power, he will use the power of the state to silence dissent and shower cash and benefits on his cronies—all of which have come true, except that it's the Dems and their backers who've fulfilled their own prophecies.
And I think we can all sense how this movie will end: the Dems and the MSM, their puppetmasters in the ownership class, and their Social Justice foot soldiers will destroy the village called Democracy in order to save it.
What gets me is just knowing how it all unfolds while being forced to watch it in super slow-mo.
It always ends this way with the Left.
The Left has always been and will always be a collection of miserable misfits manipulated by a Mephistophelean "vanguard class" who will weaponize anything and everything to tear down society (it's no coincidence that their reigning ideology is founded on the "ruthless criticism of all that exists"). They are loathsome liars but if you/we can keep our heads and simply let them speak publicly for say 10 minutes, 9 out of 10 people will easily see they're demented freaks who should be quarantined by any sane society.
But what we're living through is almost entirely the fault of the American liberal class (and this includes Republicans and conservatives), who ceded our entire culture and educational establishment (from K to PhD) to something called "Social Justice" because they couldn't be roused from tracking their 401ks and because defending America and liberal principles may have gotten their hands dirty and subjected them to some bigotry accusations.
The Trojan Horse was wheeled inside our gates many decades ago, but conservatives scoffed at anything that couldn't be monetized and liberals cowered at the idea of saying NO to someone from an "oppressed" class.
And thus here we are....
It’s true that we were probably too focused on material well-being to deal with this properly and firmly at the outset. But I think nobody really believed that anyone could take this insanity seriously.
We just laughed at the ideas we heard floated on college campuses. Silly snowflakes, haha. Hey, in college we were all crazy and naive, right? They’ll grow out of it, we all did. Only somehow these kids didn’t grow out of it, they went out and managed to take control of every institution.
We honestly didn’t realize how dangerous it was. We’ve awakened to the danger now, just hope it’s not too late.
Having gone to school in the 80's it was regarded as "cross to bear" in terms of the silly liberal pieties we needed to recite at times. We did not take it seriously because they were not serious people and we shook it off when we got to the real world. We really did not pay attention to them again until we started sending our own kids to school. a big error in turns out to be.
Yup. Here we are approaching terminus.
This go around has some peculiarities though...but the ideology is a river with many tributaries that always ends up at the same place.
They are out to sea.
Exactly so, Trump's truly invaluable service has been to catalyze a chain reaction of vicious hysteria from the unbearably smug, sanctimonious leftist elite, exposing the whole stinking thing for what it is and for what they truly are...and Brad, "porcine ogre" ain't half bad!
We now know that Biden et al have badly corrupted our once widely admired legal system.
In November we’ll find out how badly they’ve corrupted our electoral system.
We learned that in 2020, but most refuse to admit it. Think of Philadelphia, where the watchers were sent home and the vote total magically (?) flipped. Look at Georgia ( not the nonsense spouted by Trump and his allies) where True the Vote proved a sophisticated, illegal ballot harvesting scheme and another organization (sorry, can't remember its name) demonstrated that tens of thousands of ballots were cast by ineligible voters (they had moved).
The presidential election of 2020 was corrupted by the use/misuse of Covid to abuse the election laws in several states.
Some of those abuses have supposedly been remedied by court orders and legislation, but there is no way to know how badly the election system is rigged until the November elections.
The good news is that EVERYONE is going to be watching and it should be harder for the various Democrat machines to cheat, and easier for them to get caught.
My question is, what happens when they get caught?
PS
What part of Trump’s Georgia election claims do you consider nonsense? I haven’t read his court filings, but if you are referring to the video of the election workers “counting” votes for hours after everyone was supposed to have gone home for the night, it looked pretty damning to me….
Mainly the early claims (which sounded crazy to me) about the voting machines. Sidney Powell (who I'd always admired) made various assertions she was unable to substantiate.
You are right - it was abuse of election laws, i.e., drop boxes unmonitored, ballot harvesting when prohibited by law, and absentee ballot verification requirements ignored (this was in Pennsylvania, where I reside). And the Courts went along, refusing to intervene, falling back on plaintiffs lack of standing.
I am NOT convinced that most of the abuses have been corrected. In purple Pennsylvania, now (not in 2020), individuals getting a drivers license are automatically registered to vote unless they proactively opt out of registration. How many ballots could be harvested from these "new" voters? I sincerely believe our election rules and machinery have been corrupted and we can no longer (if we ever could) rely on our election infrastructure to provide a fair and free election.
I’m not convinced either, but unfortunately we won’t know until after the election.
I think that the courts were instructed to stay out of the election fraud debate, the summer riots scared the hell out of many judges….. and if the reports are accurate then Chief Justice Roberts was one of them. Roberts was supposedly heard berating the other justices, telling them that if they took the election fraud cases then the cities would burn (I don’t recall the exact phrasing, but that was the gist of it).
He showed real courage once again…../sarc
I think that the Dems will try it again, and get caught.
And I have no idea how that will play out.
That could lead to a very bad place…..
In Roman times, these people would have been cheering the lions from their front row seats at the Colosseum. In the Middle Ages, they would have packed their picnic lunches and hurried to watch the public execution that was the weekend entertainment. They would be the people filling stadiums to see the sinner stoned to death.
I read stories like this in my history books, and wondered how people could behave that way. I thought civilization had taken us beyond such barbarity, but seeing the MSM cheerleading for Letitia James, I realize that I was wrong.
We can’t excuse those who are wildly applauding this by blaming MSM for misleading them. The media is gleefully reporting every gruesome detail, and their adoring crowd is ecstatic and begging for more. In earlier times, Biden would be asking, “Are you not entertained?”
This will not likely be enough to satisfy their lust to destroy. What will they demand next?
you left out Madam Defarge. (Though not a history book.) The (self) loathing of these jealous losers runs deep.
Shark Tank member and investor Kevin O'Leary has noted that this is no longer about Trump. It is now about New York and the rest of America. Since Reagan, foreign direct investment in the US has been between one and three percent of GDP annually. See https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/USA/united-states/foreign-direct-investment#:~:text=1%20U.S.%20foreign%20direct%20investment%20for%202022%20was,2019%20was%20%24314.74B%2C%20a%2046.59%25%20increase%20from%202018.
This is one reason for persistent inflation. It also affects our ability to borrow in international markets, and reduces the power of our threats and sanctions. James has thrown a major monkey wrench into the works. One reason we attract foreign investment is strong property protection laws. As of today, I would neither open a business in New York nor recommend that anyone else do so. The precedent set is that if the legal structure in New York considers you unworthy, you're going to be crushed, impoverished and dispossessed. If your views don't match those of the current authoritarians, the law won't protect you. Ditto if key officials in the authoritarian state just plain don't like you.
This should send businesses running from New York (those remaining after deBlasio denied them police protection and raised the murder rate to nightmare levels.) Biden has burdened New York City with billions of dollars in costs to support illegal immigrants, and the breakdown of law and order with "shopping without money," failure to prosecute most serious crimes and and the revocation of cash bail has promoted a lawlessness not seen since before "broken windows" was established. New York today is Detroit from the 1960s. For those who don't remember, Detroit lost half its population and two-thirds of its tax base over a decade.
New York's only way to save itself is to stop persecuting Trump and start voting for him.
Who would get the money from the judgement? Since there are no victims, does it go to the banks who gave him the loans?
This also has huge implications for business in New York. It's precisely similar to how the law works in corrupt countries, you have laws on the books that are unusual, difficult to follow and are violated regularly. Then a corrupt official can personally collect a fine anytime the law is "violated". The same goes for selective prosecution. Anyone who falls afoul of the political establishment can become a target. Who would want to do business in an environment like that? Isn't this the same state where you can dismember a body in a house you illegally occupy and be out without bail?
Additional, how can Trump post collateral for the appeal bond if he can't use his illiquid assets at a fair (or inflated) price?
There are so many ways this could backfire. I'd start with looking into the business dealings of the involved prosecutors and judge. It might even be something as innocuous as borrowing money from a friend for family for a down payment that can get you into hot water.
I say seize his assets at this point. That'll get him elected.
It would get him elected in a legitimate election, if there is one.
Always, always that caveat.
Things could get rough.
I honestly don’t believe that the Trump “prosecutions” have gotten this far.
I thought that someone with authority(like the Supreme Court) would have stepped in and said ‘we don’t do things like that in this country’ and dismissed the charges…. All of them, because it’s clear to anyone paying attention that they are politically motivated and being tried and decided by Trump’s political enemies.
I’ve seen the prosecutors in these cases do things that would have gotten them disbarred 20 years ago, and nothing happens to them.
Yeah, I think things are going to get worse…..
I know. Worries me.
We need a counter revolution.
That's why we have to wake up the normies so they realize the Left started their revolution 20 years ago.
What is there to say about this grotesque state we have got ourselves into in the Western world - and especially in the Anglosphere... with lousy third-rate posers and chancers heading up so many of our once enviable political and cultural institutions..."I see a bad moon rising; I see trouble on the way; I see earthquakes and lightning; and...?."
"Yes, Trump overstated the value of his assets when he sought out the loans in question."
No, he did not. If anything, he undervalued them.
True. It's really a matter of opinion.
Yeah, these subhumans assume they are somehow injury proof. All whilst painting a target logo on their own forehead. Where will they run?
Were the politics reversed, some Left wing nut blogger/anonymous someone would have already posted the address, phone number & email of this judge publicly. It is the government stealing the assets of a private citizen who did not break any law. Makes me sick, cough, cough, kafka.
remember the warning of Niemoller "first they came for......" fell on deaf ears. No one who is not the direct target of this believes that they will ever be in the cross hairs. Many of of us read Taibbi and while I really enjoy his stack, it is a wonder to behold his disbelief as he wanders in the desert he helped create.
This is my fear. While many now see the disasters the left has brought about, they comfort themselves by claiming “my party left me!” They don’t understand that the party didn’t leave them. The party just carried out their abysmal ideas to their logical conclusion.
Another take on these looks. Especially LJ. https://shorturl.at/EGP14
Just telling you like it is: you have a fake patriot and pro-Putin candidate who’s now a financial liability
How much of your mental real estate does Trump occupy on a daily basis?
Only long enough to respond to these kinds of posts. How did a guy who takes zero responsibility become the figurehead for the party of personal responsibility? Easy, just follow the rubles
Trump is a fraud and a con man, a common criminal. The Russians want him back in, so don’t fall for the bullshit. And think before you parrot Russian propaganda. Thanks and have a nice day.
"Russian propaganda." You're delusional. Turn off MSNBC.