I can't believe they based their case around Donald Trump knowing that he was lying about the election results, and loved his response -- no, they still stole the election!
You're 100% correct that this is end-of-government stuff and we need to be very worried about what comes next. They're literally telling us that we're not allowed to chose the candidate to run against Biden.........to save democracy, of course.
"End of Government" is exactly it. This isn't merely a one-off hit job they're pulling on Trump. If they are successful in heading off his reelection, even if he doesn't face incarceration, they will have established a precedent whereby any Republican running from here on out will be investigated, charged, and subjected to a show trial for the most meaningless of trespasses and/or completely contrived ones.
As the Biden crime family continues to run amok.
Brad is partially correct when he says that conviction is likely. I'd say it's damn near assured. The Obama-appointed judge has already tipped her hand (and the optics of a black female liberal justice taking down the Bad Orange Man are just too delicious to ignore) and in combination with a guaranteed 100% Democrat D.C. jury, they could convict him of being responsible for the Plagues of Egypt. And the media would wholeheartedly agree.
If America stands any chance of getting through this dark time and the "new normal" it operates in, Trump must be reelected, kangaroo court convictions notwithstanding.
"If you’re going to indict a former president on such grave charges, you want as close to a slam-dunk case as you can get, and you want the crime to be an act that anyone of any status would be indicted for in similar circumstances."
My read on this is that we have a cult of elites that twitch at the same frequency, and they occupy all the positions of power and influence including government, the media and most of the nation's judicial. Their power is near absolute, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I think they KNOW they are out of bounds... but they are just manufacturing a media narrative to keep up the negative branding of their primary opponent while using the same spin factory to prop up a fake positive brand of their elite cult leader. There is no institution that will smack them down... except SCOTUS. But the Robert's court is a demonstrated wuss related to this stuff. They see the power of the activist-backed political establishment to destroy individual and institutional reputations. I think it would have to get much worse before old John puts his legacy and reputation of the court on the line.
If this case sets the precedent that all politicians found to be lying get tried and imprisoned, I'm gonna have to find a way to sit on that jury;))
That would the greatest, biggest and most beneficial high colonic in all of recorded history.
Also, we really should start making and selling Jack Smith votive candles, tote bags, action figures and T-shirts, the MSNBC set must be looking to replace all their Comey and RBG swag.
We know these easy marks better than they know themselves!
The whole thing is absurd, and I don't blame Trump for thinking the election was stolen considering the democrats in collusion with the main stream press, the CIA, the FBI, and many on the left, etc. who tried to remove him from office, and delegitimized his presidency for four years. Then you have a riot at the capital and they call it an insurrection where the old and the young unarmed, and some dressed in costumes, came to take over the reins of government. Then they hold a Jan 6 committee with only 2 republicans who hate his guts, to determine his guilt or innocence and now they"lost" things. If he didn't think the election was stolen I might think he was nuts.
Also a while back I was watching Jeffery Sachs whom I really like discuss the war in Ukraine and the neocon agenda fueling that confrontation, great, but then he stops himself in mid-sentence and tells his audience how he never got a goodnight sleep the whole time Trump was in office. It wasn't a joke, and I thought to myself, everyone has lost their minds in their sucking up the hate fueled by the democrats. Why aren't the republicans speaking out against what the establishment did to Trump? The democrats did to Trump? The CIA did to Trump?
They fvcking bragged about it in time magazine. I would take them at their word. And then there was 2000 mules. Anybody remember the fact that they could have followed those bastards and found out exactly who was paying them off.
Smith has since requested an Order of Protection, more commonly Known as a gag order. In a Freedom of Expression case, he wants prior restraint on speech. Unfucking believable.
He also subpoenaed Trump's Twitter records today (I believe) - secretly, because according to the court, if Trump were to find out, he'd be a flight risk.
It originated with Plato, allegedly, but I believe Cicero appropriated the translation. I took one year of Latin in Junior High; it was taught conversationally. I take it I came close to being correct.
Excellent stuff. And this, right here, could spark the second revolution. I really believe there are enough old white guys, pissed off enough, that if they convict him, because in-the venue he's in he would never get a fair trial, you might see it happen. And we don't smash cars and throw bottles. And the fact that trump was right 1000% that election was rigged to death, so what's left? I told you three years ago we are in the cartridge box stage. Look it up. Frederick Douglass.
Brad, as usual, love your stuff. I admit to being one of those who can't stand Trump. And I think some aspects of the indictment are troublesome. However...
While not being a lawyer, I find some issue with your analysis of fraud requiring the taking of money or property. The cases you cited related to US Code sections 1341 and 1343 that do list money or other property in scope. However, Trump is indicted under USC section 371 which makes no such mention of money or property.
The indictments are a ploy. Nobody wants a trial. They are a cudgel to beat Trump with by the media, Democrats, and never Trump Republicans for the next year and a half. Expect leaks to continue dripping out between maybe another indictment or two. The trials will be delayed until after the election and then Trump will be pardoned by Biden, hoping to set a precedent for his pending legal problems. Biden will not be the Democrats candidate.
I'm wondering if all the indictments are a ploy to make sure Trump is going to be the candidate. There is precedent for that in other elections where Democrats thought that Trump supported candidates are easier to beat. They probably think that enough people on the right are pissed about the vaccines to not vote for Trump and having him on the ballot will once more bring out the "anyone but Trump" voters.
I'm sorry guy but you're an idiot. You sound like you just stepped out o the newsroom on 7 Jan. Where the fuck you been? Everything you are claiming has been proven false. Ignorance is a choice. You choose it, lest your confirmation bias not get its daily stroke. Please, go away.
I don't need to listen to parsing lawyers or partisan hacks to know what I saw and heard on January 6. Trump directly caused our Capitol to be desecrated and brave police to lose their lives. He was intent on a coup, and he should pay dearly for it. Maybe a taste of his own recommendation for law breakers: "Please don't be too nice." I get that people hate wokeness and Democrats, but how you can defend that NYC conman is beyond me.
I'm not defending him and understand your disdain. I'm merely advocating for temperance and forbearance for the sake of norms and the unity of the country, and pointing out that the law is being stretched in ways that we may very well regret in the not too distant future.
Except he did conspire to impede the peaceful transition of power. I don't know how anyone can deny that with a straight face. What about the precedent of having your Capitol ransacked by a defeated president's mob? Even Bolsonaro didn't do that. Such a disgrace to our founders.
January 6 and the Floyd riots are both very bad but completely different. The only commonality was the partisan spin cycle in people's minds that makes their side right no matter what. I'm not a team player like that. I care about the country and the rule of law. Trump's threats towards Pence are indefensible because they usurped the Constitution. He wants to be a Putin like despot. How can any patriot let that happen here? I agree to disagree, Brad. Your perspective is always interesting and eloquently stated. Hoping for the best.
To give you an idea of how wrong I think you are, if it weren't for the feds, 6 January would have been a very peaceful protest, exactly what PDT called for. And to be perfectly honest,we should have showed up armed to tte teeth and stopped that stolen election from happening.
Actually best case scenario to me would be jail Trump, impeach Biden (incompetence), and completely reform both corrupt parties, maybe even institute a multi party system. It might require the second coming of Christ, but it's worth a try!
You sound just like women who refuse to accept their husband is sleeping around even when it's obvious to everyone else. Loving Trump means so much to you that you'd sacrifice your country and dignity to uphold his lies. Pathetic.
Loving trump? No. But I did live through four years of his actions, and when he left office, were it not for the virus bought and paid for with our tax money, the whole world got to take a nice deep breath. No wars. Four years. Trump did nothing wrong, and all you do is spew cnn talking points. What exactly did he lie about. Tell me all those lies. I don't love the guy. Just saw what a force he was for good. And sorry about your husband running around on you. That must suck.
Where did you get your information? Still watching tv news? Please, get a clue. Btw, two civilians were murdered by police that day, one officer died the next day after his stupid comrades dragged him around all day whilst he was stroking, and didn't get him any aid. You might educate yourself just a little prior to spewing.
Those police officers you call "stupid comrades" were defending my country's Capitol while that draft dodging daddy's boy stayed safely in the White House after lying to his mob that he would march with them. They're heroes, and Trump will die a lying traitor.
I get it, and I am all in on outsider candidates like RFKJ, Ramaswamy and even Trump, but the fix to the overreach and criminality of these agencies is congress, as depressing as that may be. They have the power to slash the funding of the agencies to reduce their power. Until that happens, if it ever happens, you will see the same reaction to any threat from the executive branch.
I can't believe they based their case around Donald Trump knowing that he was lying about the election results, and loved his response -- no, they still stole the election!
You're 100% correct that this is end-of-government stuff and we need to be very worried about what comes next. They're literally telling us that we're not allowed to chose the candidate to run against Biden.........to save democracy, of course.
"End of Government" is exactly it. This isn't merely a one-off hit job they're pulling on Trump. If they are successful in heading off his reelection, even if he doesn't face incarceration, they will have established a precedent whereby any Republican running from here on out will be investigated, charged, and subjected to a show trial for the most meaningless of trespasses and/or completely contrived ones.
As the Biden crime family continues to run amok.
Brad is partially correct when he says that conviction is likely. I'd say it's damn near assured. The Obama-appointed judge has already tipped her hand (and the optics of a black female liberal justice taking down the Bad Orange Man are just too delicious to ignore) and in combination with a guaranteed 100% Democrat D.C. jury, they could convict him of being responsible for the Plagues of Egypt. And the media would wholeheartedly agree.
If America stands any chance of getting through this dark time and the "new normal" it operates in, Trump must be reelected, kangaroo court convictions notwithstanding.
Absolutely right....
My phone number is 571-235-2544. Please call.
I just got home late from softball, but I'll give you a ring tomorrow!
I hope you and Bill are starting a political movement.
Power to the NICE people.
Great stuff again Brad!
"If you’re going to indict a former president on such grave charges, you want as close to a slam-dunk case as you can get, and you want the crime to be an act that anyone of any status would be indicted for in similar circumstances."
My read on this is that we have a cult of elites that twitch at the same frequency, and they occupy all the positions of power and influence including government, the media and most of the nation's judicial. Their power is near absolute, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I think they KNOW they are out of bounds... but they are just manufacturing a media narrative to keep up the negative branding of their primary opponent while using the same spin factory to prop up a fake positive brand of their elite cult leader. There is no institution that will smack them down... except SCOTUS. But the Robert's court is a demonstrated wuss related to this stuff. They see the power of the activist-backed political establishment to destroy individual and institutional reputations. I think it would have to get much worse before old John puts his legacy and reputation of the court on the line.
If this case sets the precedent that all politicians found to be lying get tried and imprisoned, I'm gonna have to find a way to sit on that jury;))
That would the greatest, biggest and most beneficial high colonic in all of recorded history.
Also, we really should start making and selling Jack Smith votive candles, tote bags, action figures and T-shirts, the MSNBC set must be looking to replace all their Comey and RBG swag.
We know these easy marks better than they know themselves!
The whole thing is absurd, and I don't blame Trump for thinking the election was stolen considering the democrats in collusion with the main stream press, the CIA, the FBI, and many on the left, etc. who tried to remove him from office, and delegitimized his presidency for four years. Then you have a riot at the capital and they call it an insurrection where the old and the young unarmed, and some dressed in costumes, came to take over the reins of government. Then they hold a Jan 6 committee with only 2 republicans who hate his guts, to determine his guilt or innocence and now they"lost" things. If he didn't think the election was stolen I might think he was nuts.
Also a while back I was watching Jeffery Sachs whom I really like discuss the war in Ukraine and the neocon agenda fueling that confrontation, great, but then he stops himself in mid-sentence and tells his audience how he never got a goodnight sleep the whole time Trump was in office. It wasn't a joke, and I thought to myself, everyone has lost their minds in their sucking up the hate fueled by the democrats. Why aren't the republicans speaking out against what the establishment did to Trump? The democrats did to Trump? The CIA did to Trump?
They fvcking bragged about it in time magazine. I would take them at their word. And then there was 2000 mules. Anybody remember the fact that they could have followed those bastards and found out exactly who was paying them off.
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Smith has since requested an Order of Protection, more commonly Known as a gag order. In a Freedom of Expression case, he wants prior restraint on speech. Unfucking believable.
He also subpoenaed Trump's Twitter records today (I believe) - secretly, because according to the court, if Trump were to find out, he'd be a flight risk.
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1689377567206236160?s=20
Democrats ensured that no one will be able to prove or disprove who won the election by destroying the audit trails.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Who watches the watchers?
It originated with Plato, allegedly, but I believe Cicero appropriated the translation. I took one year of Latin in Junior High; it was taught conversationally. I take it I came close to being correct.
Excellent stuff. And this, right here, could spark the second revolution. I really believe there are enough old white guys, pissed off enough, that if they convict him, because in-the venue he's in he would never get a fair trial, you might see it happen. And we don't smash cars and throw bottles. And the fact that trump was right 1000% that election was rigged to death, so what's left? I told you three years ago we are in the cartridge box stage. Look it up. Frederick Douglass.
I did think it a little obscene that indictment had paid advertising links for Biden 2024.
Brad, as usual, love your stuff. I admit to being one of those who can't stand Trump. And I think some aspects of the indictment are troublesome. However...
While not being a lawyer, I find some issue with your analysis of fraud requiring the taking of money or property. The cases you cited related to US Code sections 1341 and 1343 that do list money or other property in scope. However, Trump is indicted under USC section 371 which makes no such mention of money or property.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you for pointing this out. That's a mistake on my part.
The indictments are a ploy. Nobody wants a trial. They are a cudgel to beat Trump with by the media, Democrats, and never Trump Republicans for the next year and a half. Expect leaks to continue dripping out between maybe another indictment or two. The trials will be delayed until after the election and then Trump will be pardoned by Biden, hoping to set a precedent for his pending legal problems. Biden will not be the Democrats candidate.
If true, it would be the very definition of election interference..... which I believe is a felony.
I'm wondering if all the indictments are a ploy to make sure Trump is going to be the candidate. There is precedent for that in other elections where Democrats thought that Trump supported candidates are easier to beat. They probably think that enough people on the right are pissed about the vaccines to not vote for Trump and having him on the ballot will once more bring out the "anyone but Trump" voters.
This will probably be thrown out by a pre-trial motion for the reasons you give. If it somehow gets past that, it will be appealed.and overturned.
It's terrible politics and abusive prosecution, but it's not gonna have any legal effect.
I hope you are right, but so much bizarre bullshit has happened lately that I’m not so sure....
The appellate courts are pretty conservative.
I'm sorry guy but you're an idiot. You sound like you just stepped out o the newsroom on 7 Jan. Where the fuck you been? Everything you are claiming has been proven false. Ignorance is a choice. You choose it, lest your confirmation bias not get its daily stroke. Please, go away.
I don't need to listen to parsing lawyers or partisan hacks to know what I saw and heard on January 6. Trump directly caused our Capitol to be desecrated and brave police to lose their lives. He was intent on a coup, and he should pay dearly for it. Maybe a taste of his own recommendation for law breakers: "Please don't be too nice." I get that people hate wokeness and Democrats, but how you can defend that NYC conman is beyond me.
I'm not defending him and understand your disdain. I'm merely advocating for temperance and forbearance for the sake of norms and the unity of the country, and pointing out that the law is being stretched in ways that we may very well regret in the not too distant future.
Except he did conspire to impede the peaceful transition of power. I don't know how anyone can deny that with a straight face. What about the precedent of having your Capitol ransacked by a defeated president's mob? Even Bolsonaro didn't do that. Such a disgrace to our founders.
I respectfully disagree. His conduct was unethical but not illegal. And Jan. 6 pales in comparison to the Floyd riots.
January 6 and the Floyd riots are both very bad but completely different. The only commonality was the partisan spin cycle in people's minds that makes their side right no matter what. I'm not a team player like that. I care about the country and the rule of law. Trump's threats towards Pence are indefensible because they usurped the Constitution. He wants to be a Putin like despot. How can any patriot let that happen here? I agree to disagree, Brad. Your perspective is always interesting and eloquently stated. Hoping for the best.
To give you an idea of how wrong I think you are, if it weren't for the feds, 6 January would have been a very peaceful protest, exactly what PDT called for. And to be perfectly honest,we should have showed up armed to tte teeth and stopped that stolen election from happening.
Actually best case scenario to me would be jail Trump, impeach Biden (incompetence), and completely reform both corrupt parties, maybe even institute a multi party system. It might require the second coming of Christ, but it's worth a try!
No he didn't. That's just tds. There is help.
That president wasn't defeated. There's the problem. You're just wrong, and riddled with tds.
You sound just like women who refuse to accept their husband is sleeping around even when it's obvious to everyone else. Loving Trump means so much to you that you'd sacrifice your country and dignity to uphold his lies. Pathetic.
Loving trump? No. But I did live through four years of his actions, and when he left office, were it not for the virus bought and paid for with our tax money, the whole world got to take a nice deep breath. No wars. Four years. Trump did nothing wrong, and all you do is spew cnn talking points. What exactly did he lie about. Tell me all those lies. I don't love the guy. Just saw what a force he was for good. And sorry about your husband running around on you. That must suck.
Were you there personally? Or did you watch it through some filter?
Where did you get your information? Still watching tv news? Please, get a clue. Btw, two civilians were murdered by police that day, one officer died the next day after his stupid comrades dragged him around all day whilst he was stroking, and didn't get him any aid. You might educate yourself just a little prior to spewing.
Those police officers you call "stupid comrades" were defending my country's Capitol while that draft dodging daddy's boy stayed safely in the White House after lying to his mob that he would march with them. They're heroes, and Trump will die a lying traitor.
The only person who got close to incitement (per the standard of Brandenburg v Ohio) was Giuliani in his speech at the rally.
I get it, and I am all in on outsider candidates like RFKJ, Ramaswamy and even Trump, but the fix to the overreach and criminality of these agencies is congress, as depressing as that may be. They have the power to slash the funding of the agencies to reduce their power. Until that happens, if it ever happens, you will see the same reaction to any threat from the executive branch.
bad things happen when someone with those initial are AG
Uniparty everywhere! Let them know you are watching and waiting