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Becoming the Rainbow's avatar

What stands out to me is how many on the left see this election as about gender and race, as if the only two possible reasons for supporting Trump are misogyny and white supremacy. Not true. Trump voters are a heterogeneous group, as individual in their thinking -- if not more so -- than Democrats.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

It's the mirror-image bias, they are obsessed with race and sex and what box to put people in so they think others also think like that. And if it's really misogyny and racism that caused Harris to lose: Were all those people who rejected her in the Democratic primary in favour of Biden guilty as well? And if the country is so racist and sexist - why run a woman of colour at all if Democracy is on the line?

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Becoming the Rainbow's avatar

I should print up a t-shirt...

Just another Loving, Inclusive, Empathetic, LGBT, Environmentally-Conscious voter for Trump.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Most of these quotes are from pathetic, weak minded crybabies. Their hyperbolic whining shows that they still don’t “get it”. The answer to the Trump victory has nothing to do with race, misogyny, or testosterone.

Voters simply looked at their paychecks, the cost of groceries, gas, and housing and they saw the statistics on illegal immigration and crime. They also saw through the ridiculously false rhetoric about rights being taken away and Donald Trump being “literally Hitler”.

Most everything people care about in the U.S. was better under the Trump presidency. That’s it. “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

Ascribing sinister motives where none exist was a losing strategy for the election and it’s a loser’s strategy going forward. Some people never learn.

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Kutsen's avatar

This is kinda strange, but carefully watch Keith Olbermann's eyes -- just his eyes -- as he asserts in that intendedly stentorian, radio-voice-of-doom delivery --

"Russia has committed an act of war against this nation. We were attacked last night -- regardless of the outcome of the presidential election -- as certainly as if Russia had bombed and not merely threatened with a terrorist attack.."

There's a weird, jarring, impossible to ignore disconnect between the hyperbolic sounds he's making and his facial expression. His eyes cannot hide the fact that he does not believe in the veracity of what he's saying; he's drumming up end-of-the-world agitprop but can't convince his own brain. Total cognitive dissonance.

The man is unwell. I suspect he's on the cusp of disappearing from public life.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

This, in addition to the other post might be a great collection of hot takes to revisit every year. It's hilarious how the worst peddlers of disinformation claim with a straight face, like Baghdad Bob, that their political opponents are the ones who are falling for disinformation. And even Russia makes an appearance again, while I still hear from normies who believe this most of the corporate press moved on from that stinker of a misinformation campaign.

As long as they insist that Harris' campaign was flawless, she was a great candidate, and everyone who voted for her did it either because of Russia or because they are evil they are going to lose. Surprisingly one of my favorite nutjobs, Tay Tay Lorenz had a somewhat more intelligent take on the problems: https://www.usermag.co/p/why-democrats-wont-build-their-own She even has a nuanced take on Joe Rogan although still painting him as right wing. But she also doesn't understand why these podcast are so popular, especially Rogan. She still thinks in corporate media terms where the only reason her side lost is because the other side is telling more convincing lies. The transparent lying and persecution is a huge reason why Trump won over a lot of people. Any time you treat a person like they're too stupid to look up something for themselves you push them further and further towards Trump. You only have to get caught in a lie once to lose your credibility.

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Art's avatar

Right? And can you imagine how difficult it would be to locate any source of accurate information about anything if these folks had another four years to appoint a commissar to provide the official determination of what constitutes “disinformation” to be suppressed across every communication platform?

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Nikole Hannah-Jones was born in 1976 in Iowa, has a white mother and a black father (neither of whom were arrested or chased out of town for their relationship), was given scholarships for college and post-grad, has received just about every award the White Guilt Industrial Complex has to offer, and is rich and famous even though she is essentially a musician who knows only one song.

The idea that she has "had to live under apartheid in the U.S." that she knows "what it’s like NOT to be able to cast a ballot, not to have rights of citizenship, not to be protected by this nation’s laws" is preposterous hysterical nonsense that is long past its sell-by date.

We are 60 years past the Civil Rights Act and at least 25 years into a demographic revolution that has made America more multiethnic than ever and that has made the idea of interracial romances a yawn—not to mention that America has a healthy black middle class and that we all know every college and institution in America is desperate to get their hands on a black/brown face, regardless of their qualifications.

Elections come and go, politics fluctuate, but the Victim religion is impossible to dent or dislodge. Nikole H-J and her ilk are monomaniacs who once had a point, then became shrill and boring, then obnoxious bullies, and now are just sad clowns who need to be laughed at. Her hair says more about her than her words do...

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

It's almost like they're nostalgic for a time when racism was a problem just to have a valid claim at oppression. I think they don't even realize how bad it was.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

Such a good point.

I'm not quite old enough to remember pre-Civil Rights America, but I do remember when black people were treated as an official underclass and when there was barely any mixing bw the races. Thankfully we have come a long way from that, but it seems that in our day and age of Victim worship, the professional activist class needs to close their ears and eyes to the enormous progress we've made. I think Booker T Washington hit the nail on the head here:

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

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Artemus Gordon's avatar

The maga squirrel deserved to die. First she's acting like God and deciding what should live and die. Second, the squirrel wasn't maga, it was just a squirrel. In reference to most of these quotes, the emotion, the irrationality, the dementia the derangement and psychosis is too much. In all of these folks ranting, not one of them has looked inward. Not one, except maybe Bernie Sanders.

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Mike B's avatar

Girl power vs Squirrel power. Guess we know who won

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Artemus Gordon's avatar

Trump?

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Frank Lee's avatar

Clearly we have a cult problem with the left. It is global, but the US leads it. Like Reagan said, it is not that they are ignorant, it is that they know so much that just isn't so.

This is really it. They are 80% wrong about everything.

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Fred Ickenham's avatar

“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain

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Jim Veenbaas's avatar

The MAGA squirrel deserved to die” — Also Jen Rubin

I thought this was by far the shittiest quote in a sea of shitty quotes - until I got to Kendi, who is scared of his shadow because it might expose his grift if exposed to open sunlight.

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Chuck's avatar

It's incredible to see how much they believe their own bullshit.

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DMC's avatar

yeah they seem to be doubling down but my perception is that they are screaming into the void. (Except for those of us listening for entertainment purposes.)

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Anthony S.'s avatar

About that message Dean Mundy sent to his students: I wonder what would happen if a student wrote back to say, "I voted for Trump, and it had nothing to do with supporting fear or hate or white supremacy."

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DMC's avatar

thats gonna hurt the ole GPA

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Jim Veenbaas's avatar

The U.S. is so racist it refuses to elect a black women, yet the Republicans were terrified of Michelle Obama seeking the Dem nomination. She would have won in a landslide, deserved or undeserved.

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Albert Cory's avatar

When people say we shouldn’t gloat:

Remember Maddow said that a President Harris should confiscate all of Elon’s properties and deport him.

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MSK's avatar

You would think that the media might be a little more reflective and ask themselves hard questions about how a man so hated by so many, whom they relentlessly vilified and mocked, could have not judged won, but won decisively, and ask themselves whether they were right or in fact part of the problem, and whether they might be misreading over half of the country. But no, they are apparently going to double down on their hatred, lies and continue to spread their misinformation to the less than half of the country that apparently wholeheartedly still believes them. Hopefully we can continue to pick of the few that will actually take the time to see what happened.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

That would require some ability to feel shame on the part of the media people. I don't think that environment selects for that quality. These people love to call themselves journalists but they're really more actors or entertainers and that's how they operate. An actor doesn't feel shame for what a character they portray is doing because it's entirely fictional - same with the talking heads on the media, they get their script from someone else and then just act the part. It's total dissociation by design.

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Dunboy2020's avatar

Haha. But this time when the press comes out with its screeching gotcha stories (they’ve already tried two: Elon was on the Zelensky call, and Trump won’t sign some ethics document) most of the country will say “ho-hum.” Now they just look silly.

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Yeah I think you can make a story out of those things only when there is nothing else going on. I remember some of the stories like Trump not knowing about the US policy of not officially recognizing Taiwan (which I think most people who called him a dumbass also didn't know about), the size of his inauguration crowd, or even some bizarre story about him feeding fish. That's probably not going to interest anyone when the economy is in the shitter and the world on the brink of nuclear war. And people might ask why the media is suddenly paying attention to the president again when they all but covered up Bidens many issues.

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Bill Heath's avatar

I am convinced that MSNBC exists only so that there is somewhere to go if retired psychiatrists such as myself begin to miss crazy people.

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Jeremy Busfield's avatar

I loved Walter Kirn before. I love him even more now.

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DMC's avatar

I am starting to feel guilty about my excessive Schadefruede. this isnt helping!!

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