This is one of those moments where the implicit becomes explicit and the unspoken becomes spoken, which in this case shows how much White Saviorism means to liberals (which includes almost all establishment institutionalists, most esp in culture and media). White liberals cannot relinquish their sacred belief and divine crusade, what they view as their historical role and destiny: saving black Americans from their low status and somehow (no matter how much fudging is involved) transferring wealth, status and achievement to black people in the name of whatever is the sentimental abstraction du jour, Equity Equality Justice blah blah blah.
But in this case what started off decades ago as a noble enterprise has degenerated into a weird cargo cult where we're supposed to believe black people have this magical mystical essence that's been smothered by Amerikkka for centuries, that they won the space race and were British royals etc, and thus flesh-and-blood humans become sacred symbols. And once anything becomes a symbol it also becomes a weapon, a business, or in this case a moral litmus test, drenched in emotional blackmail, where how you "feel" about black people and AA decides if you're Good or Evil.
And thus we're led to the bizarre spectacle of today, where the black people who making their living toiling in the vineyards of White Guilt have to basically rage "How dare you take away our special status? How else are we to achieve and excel without white liberals tilting the playing field for us?" How degrading!
This may actually be a great day for black Americans and the sooner they can escape from their weird S&M relationship with white liberals (i.e. If you don't vote Democrat "then you ain't black") the better it will be for them.
Hold on. Are you saying wealth is being transferred to blacks through affirmative action, etc?
I think you could make an argument that their greatest source of wealth (their futures) was transferred to the cargo cults in the vineyards.
That's the cat they don't want out of the bag imo, because what's been transferred/stolen is their sense of purpose, siphoned off one welfare check at a time.
"Are you saying wealth is being transferred to blacks through affirmative action, etc?"
I would think that the diversity-industrial complex has transferred some wealth, or at least that's the plan.
While I do for the most part believe almost all of the post-Civil Rights reforms etc were created to first and foremost meet the political, social and emotional needs of white liberals (most esp white liberal politicians, profs and "activists"), I don't want to be a total cynic and say that no one ever had benevolent motives too.
What started at as a boost or a gentle finger on the scale has morphed into another racket, not to mention a political crusade to take the place where religion, community and patriotism used to be.
Even Booker T nailed it over a century ago (which goes to show you how new these issues are):
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
Is sad to me the role of the black "thinker" who mines White Guilt for a living, they are like blues singers who sing the song of their pain to upscale whites (just without the good music) or those old slaves who used to show their scars for newsreels...they have to perform this degrading role and make believe it's still the 1960s, which i doubt they even believe, and do all that weird whining about how "exhausted" they are and how the cops are always hunting them.
It is like a weird deal w the (white lol) devil where they get $$ by selling their dignity.
But then again, is hard to feel much sympathy for charlatans like Kendi or the odious propagandist, Nikole Hannah-Jones.
America is just eternally fucked when it comes to race...
yeah, i been feeling for awhile that one way to break the eternal racial food fight would be to have as many black conservatives in govt as poss. Scott as VP could only help, and of course it wd be hilarious to watch all the white liberal talking heads explode ;))
"No Black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system" - that's a stunning display of racism but I also think it's saying the quiet part out loud. These people consider themselves superior.
That quote should have raised the ire of everyone. Including Justice Thomas and Justice Brown Jackson. I don’t think they know how racist they are in believing black people cannot succeed based on merit.
Merit should be everything that matters for selecting for admissions, hiring, promotions, awards, etc. Merit can be a big tent, but race, gender, sexual orientation, fashion addiction.. none of that belongs in the tent.
I'd also say that the "legacy" admissions have to go, that really doesn't work in a merit based system and belongs on the trash heap with the rest of the aristocracy.
Merit-based is the only criteria we should use for all human selection despite the tendency for some to dominate because any other criteria would result in reduced progress that dooms society. The solution is not to accommodate low capability as is, but to strive to give everyone the opportunity to grow their capability to their maxim potential, and then provide copious paths they can take to leverage their capability to earn a good life.
Bolshevik madrassas. That's a keeper. With your permission, I'll be using that a lot. Same for "She Guevera." Biden is at least correct (accidentally) for once: this is not a normal court.
Individuals aren’t defined by immutable characteristics like the color of their skin, but are instead the sum of their experiences. What matters isn’t what kind of obstacles someone faces; it’s how they respond. It’s about challenges bested and lessons learned.
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How very libertarian of you! Also, isn't Biden undermining faith in the Supreme Court something only a domestic terrorist would do?
I think this was correct, and the few people I know who teach at higher learning institutions are actually excited about this because they think that racial issues were way too important at the schools right now.
There is no question in my mind that acceptance into a college should be based on academic merit and not race, and if they are concerned about inequality I have no problem with providing better elementary and secondary education to blacks, whites, what ever. I forget the place but they were justifying graduating Black kids who were reading far below reading level, and were giving themselves a thumbs up for being racially balanced. No they're not. Why didn't they have enrichment programs for kids, black or white, or any other color whose reading scores were low? That of course would mean money, and God knows they really don't want to do that. Not that this has anything to do with the topic under discussion, but we have a black mayor in NY who felt the need to chastise an old woman who was 84 because she was vocal in expressing her concerns about rising rents. Instead of addressing her question our mayor felt the need to accuse her of treating him like she was a plantation owner, and I guess himself a slave, when in reality her family no doubt came over hear in the beginning of the 20th century to escape the poverty which existed in many European nations at the time. However our mayor plays the game and presents himself as victim and all are culpable except him. What a cop out.
Another point to be made in regard to this issue is that many people who came over here from eastern and southern Europe left their homeland due to great poverty, and most were peasants. When they came here they often faced profound prejudice. "Working Toward Whiteness: How America's Immigrants Became White: The Strange Journey from Ellis Island to the Suburbs" is a book that covers this issue in great detail. Actually people from southern and eastern Europe weren't considered white and thought of as below Blacks. This is certainly something to consider when looking at this issue
It would have been interesting to see how an Asian Justice, of either political agenda, would have voted or what they would have written about this. Justice Sotomayor & Justice Jackson have a constituency/social circle that they answer to or entourage themselves with. But Asians are the uncomfortable constituents who are not just Chinese, Japanese or Korean immigrants or their descendants. Asian also comprise Americans of Indian lineage, who are the single most successful ethnic group in the United States of America by far. Among them are former Dalits, who general darker skin has not prevented them from being successful in all fields of endeavor. Americans of Indian lineage are CEOs of Microsoft, Google & many other huge companies. This to the Liberal mentality is the cognitive dissonance to that utterly fries their brittle brain synapses. Conservative successful Indian Americans are the bette noirs of their Liberal hypocrisy. Black Americans no longer need to be slaves of the Democratic Party, among whose members are so many whose families used to own slaves or who are the linage of the Democrats who had the longest filibuster in the history, 75 days, to try & block the Civil Rights Act in 1964.
And it was recently reported that among past presidents in my lifetime, Trump was the only one who is not directly descended from slave owners. That includes Obama and our current president.
This is one of those moments where the implicit becomes explicit and the unspoken becomes spoken, which in this case shows how much White Saviorism means to liberals (which includes almost all establishment institutionalists, most esp in culture and media). White liberals cannot relinquish their sacred belief and divine crusade, what they view as their historical role and destiny: saving black Americans from their low status and somehow (no matter how much fudging is involved) transferring wealth, status and achievement to black people in the name of whatever is the sentimental abstraction du jour, Equity Equality Justice blah blah blah.
But in this case what started off decades ago as a noble enterprise has degenerated into a weird cargo cult where we're supposed to believe black people have this magical mystical essence that's been smothered by Amerikkka for centuries, that they won the space race and were British royals etc, and thus flesh-and-blood humans become sacred symbols. And once anything becomes a symbol it also becomes a weapon, a business, or in this case a moral litmus test, drenched in emotional blackmail, where how you "feel" about black people and AA decides if you're Good or Evil.
And thus we're led to the bizarre spectacle of today, where the black people who making their living toiling in the vineyards of White Guilt have to basically rage "How dare you take away our special status? How else are we to achieve and excel without white liberals tilting the playing field for us?" How degrading!
This may actually be a great day for black Americans and the sooner they can escape from their weird S&M relationship with white liberals (i.e. If you don't vote Democrat "then you ain't black") the better it will be for them.
Hold on. Are you saying wealth is being transferred to blacks through affirmative action, etc?
I think you could make an argument that their greatest source of wealth (their futures) was transferred to the cargo cults in the vineyards.
That's the cat they don't want out of the bag imo, because what's been transferred/stolen is their sense of purpose, siphoned off one welfare check at a time.
"Are you saying wealth is being transferred to blacks through affirmative action, etc?"
I would think that the diversity-industrial complex has transferred some wealth, or at least that's the plan.
While I do for the most part believe almost all of the post-Civil Rights reforms etc were created to first and foremost meet the political, social and emotional needs of white liberals (most esp white liberal politicians, profs and "activists"), I don't want to be a total cynic and say that no one ever had benevolent motives too.
What started at as a boost or a gentle finger on the scale has morphed into another racket, not to mention a political crusade to take the place where religion, community and patriotism used to be.
Even Booker T nailed it over a century ago (which goes to show you how new these issues are):
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
We agree. I just see affirmative action as a sidecar to the plantation state that's been deliberately germinated for harvesting.
Simply put:
Looking back Affirmative Action was the "seeds" that led to the exploitation...whether it's initial intent was benevolent or not imo.
Is sad to me the role of the black "thinker" who mines White Guilt for a living, they are like blues singers who sing the song of their pain to upscale whites (just without the good music) or those old slaves who used to show their scars for newsreels...they have to perform this degrading role and make believe it's still the 1960s, which i doubt they even believe, and do all that weird whining about how "exhausted" they are and how the cops are always hunting them.
It is like a weird deal w the (white lol) devil where they get $$ by selling their dignity.
But then again, is hard to feel much sympathy for charlatans like Kendi or the odious propagandist, Nikole Hannah-Jones.
America is just eternally fucked when it comes to race...
Sad indeed. Part of me wants to see a DeSantis/Scott ticket. Maybe the message could get through.
Somebody's gotta tell it like it is...or your right...we're eternally fucked when it comes to race.
Somebody has to rip of the band-aid before there's this so called healing we need.
yeah, i been feeling for awhile that one way to break the eternal racial food fight would be to have as many black conservatives in govt as poss. Scott as VP could only help, and of course it wd be hilarious to watch all the white liberal talking heads explode ;))
"No Black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system" - that's a stunning display of racism but I also think it's saying the quiet part out loud. These people consider themselves superior.
That quote should have raised the ire of everyone. Including Justice Thomas and Justice Brown Jackson. I don’t think they know how racist they are in believing black people cannot succeed based on merit.
I'm hearing now that this might have come from a Troll account pretending to be a real person.
Merit should be everything that matters for selecting for admissions, hiring, promotions, awards, etc. Merit can be a big tent, but race, gender, sexual orientation, fashion addiction.. none of that belongs in the tent.
I'd also say that the "legacy" admissions have to go, that really doesn't work in a merit based system and belongs on the trash heap with the rest of the aristocracy.
Merit-based is the only criteria we should use for all human selection despite the tendency for some to dominate because any other criteria would result in reduced progress that dooms society. The solution is not to accommodate low capability as is, but to strive to give everyone the opportunity to grow their capability to their maxim potential, and then provide copious paths they can take to leverage their capability to earn a good life.
Bolshevik madrassas. That's a keeper. With your permission, I'll be using that a lot. Same for "She Guevera." Biden is at least correct (accidentally) for once: this is not a normal court.
I plan to use it without permission.
She Guevera is awesome
Individuals aren’t defined by immutable characteristics like the color of their skin, but are instead the sum of their experiences. What matters isn’t what kind of obstacles someone faces; it’s how they respond. It’s about challenges bested and lessons learned.
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How very libertarian of you! Also, isn't Biden undermining faith in the Supreme Court something only a domestic terrorist would do?
I think this was correct, and the few people I know who teach at higher learning institutions are actually excited about this because they think that racial issues were way too important at the schools right now.
There is no question in my mind that acceptance into a college should be based on academic merit and not race, and if they are concerned about inequality I have no problem with providing better elementary and secondary education to blacks, whites, what ever. I forget the place but they were justifying graduating Black kids who were reading far below reading level, and were giving themselves a thumbs up for being racially balanced. No they're not. Why didn't they have enrichment programs for kids, black or white, or any other color whose reading scores were low? That of course would mean money, and God knows they really don't want to do that. Not that this has anything to do with the topic under discussion, but we have a black mayor in NY who felt the need to chastise an old woman who was 84 because she was vocal in expressing her concerns about rising rents. Instead of addressing her question our mayor felt the need to accuse her of treating him like she was a plantation owner, and I guess himself a slave, when in reality her family no doubt came over hear in the beginning of the 20th century to escape the poverty which existed in many European nations at the time. However our mayor plays the game and presents himself as victim and all are culpable except him. What a cop out.
Another point to be made in regard to this issue is that many people who came over here from eastern and southern Europe left their homeland due to great poverty, and most were peasants. When they came here they often faced profound prejudice. "Working Toward Whiteness: How America's Immigrants Became White: The Strange Journey from Ellis Island to the Suburbs" is a book that covers this issue in great detail. Actually people from southern and eastern Europe weren't considered white and thought of as below Blacks. This is certainly something to consider when looking at this issue
Great clip of Thomas. Great explanation of the 14th by him also.
It would have been interesting to see how an Asian Justice, of either political agenda, would have voted or what they would have written about this. Justice Sotomayor & Justice Jackson have a constituency/social circle that they answer to or entourage themselves with. But Asians are the uncomfortable constituents who are not just Chinese, Japanese or Korean immigrants or their descendants. Asian also comprise Americans of Indian lineage, who are the single most successful ethnic group in the United States of America by far. Among them are former Dalits, who general darker skin has not prevented them from being successful in all fields of endeavor. Americans of Indian lineage are CEOs of Microsoft, Google & many other huge companies. This to the Liberal mentality is the cognitive dissonance to that utterly fries their brittle brain synapses. Conservative successful Indian Americans are the bette noirs of their Liberal hypocrisy. Black Americans no longer need to be slaves of the Democratic Party, among whose members are so many whose families used to own slaves or who are the linage of the Democrats who had the longest filibuster in the history, 75 days, to try & block the Civil Rights Act in 1964.
And it was recently reported that among past presidents in my lifetime, Trump was the only one who is not directly descended from slave owners. That includes Obama and our current president.
When Progressives can't help themselves, they finally let us see the ugly underbelly of progressives' anti-liberalism.
Im really over it all. Send me the bill on how many pounds of flesh these white libtards need and I'll offer two for every one they contribute.
I doubt there'd be any skin off my back.